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	<description>Alan Gutierrez blogs on software, social networks, and himself.</description>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s 6pm Tuesday 28th here in Adelaide, and it looks like the poll isn&#039;t accepting any more votes. If that&#039;s the case, then congratulations, Alan - it looks like Nick got up by nearly 300 votes (maybe a few of them mine!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s 6pm Tuesday 28th here in Adelaide, and it looks like the poll isn&#8217;t accepting any more votes. If that&#8217;s the case, then congratulations, Alan &#8211; it looks like Nick got up by nearly 300 votes (maybe a few of them mine!)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. I am campaigning for my candidate.

No. I don&#039;t want to make my candidate look bad by using a script. Other people are campaigning in these web polls for their candidates just as I am campaigning for mine.

Yes. I think this is stupid. I&#039;ve highlighted it.

The difference between running a script and clicking refresh is that it is concievable that it can be argued that the script is cheating. It is an illogical argument, but one that I would expect the people who would prefer to use a web poll rather than scientific poll would make.

I don&#039;t have the time or money to be on the other end of that argument. I&#039;m not going to set myself up for it, or create a local repuation as a &quot;hacker&quot;.

I&#039;m not working for a start up, but for local small businesses. I know how easily confused people are by technical issues. &quot;You mean he broke into the TV computer?&quot;

By clicking the link again and again, it&#039;s no different from the supporters of the other candidates who are pressing the vote button again and again.

I am calling attention to how foolish this is.

Looks like Nick is going to lose, anyway. He needs to beed David Kent, since they are taking the winner the group of candidates who debated on two separate nights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I am campaigning for my candidate.</p>
<p>No. I don&#8217;t want to make my candidate look bad by using a script. Other people are campaigning in these web polls for their candidates just as I am campaigning for mine.</p>
<p>Yes. I think this is stupid. I&#8217;ve highlighted it.</p>
<p>The difference between running a script and clicking refresh is that it is concievable that it can be argued that the script is cheating. It is an illogical argument, but one that I would expect the people who would prefer to use a web poll rather than scientific poll would make.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the time or money to be on the other end of that argument. I&#8217;m not going to set myself up for it, or create a local repuation as a &#8220;hacker&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not working for a start up, but for local small businesses. I know how easily confused people are by technical issues. &#8220;You mean he broke into the TV computer?&#8221;</p>
<p>By clicking the link again and again, it&#8217;s no different from the supporters of the other candidates who are pressing the vote button again and again.</p>
<p>I am calling attention to how foolish this is.</p>
<p>Looks like Nick is going to lose, anyway. He needs to beed David Kent, since they are taking the winner the group of candidates who debated on two separate nights.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Christmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Christmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Your stance on scripting.

Are you motivated by the fact that Nick was (at the time of this writing) not one of the top 2 candidates?  If you are most interested in getting Nick into the debate, then fine - no scripting so as not to compromise the position of your candidate.

Or are you motivated by the misuse of an entertainment poll by a media entity to greatly influence an election?  

Is there a big difference between scripting, and sending out emails linking to this blog?  Is there a difference between scripting and me keeping a webpage open and hitting &quot;refresh&quot; every couple of minutes to vote again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Your stance on scripting.</p>
<p>Are you motivated by the fact that Nick was (at the time of this writing) not one of the top 2 candidates?  If you are most interested in getting Nick into the debate, then fine &#8211; no scripting so as not to compromise the position of your candidate.</p>
<p>Or are you motivated by the misuse of an entertainment poll by a media entity to greatly influence an election?  </p>
<p>Is there a big difference between scripting, and sending out emails linking to this blog?  Is there a difference between scripting and me keeping a webpage open and hitting &#8220;refresh&#8221; every couple of minutes to vote again?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave

It is apropos. One of the projects I&#039;m discussing is turning one of the people finder databased into a constituent finder.

http://familymessages.org/

This is a project that collaborated with immediately after Katrina. At the 9th Ward Homeowners, State Rep. Charmaine Marchand asked me what it would take to create a database of displaced constituents for the Lower 9th. I said a phone call to Dan Chaney. He wrote Family Messages in about 48 hours.

Amazing stuff. I&#039;m not plugging it in the mainline blog, since I&#039;m waiting to see if it&#039;s really possible. We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave</p>
<p>It is apropos. One of the projects I&#8217;m discussing is turning one of the people finder databased into a constituent finder.</p>
<p><a href="http://familymessages.org/" rel="nofollow">http://familymessages.org/</a></p>
<p>This is a project that collaborated with immediately after Katrina. At the 9th Ward Homeowners, State Rep. Charmaine Marchand asked me what it would take to create a database of displaced constituents for the Lower 9th. I said a phone call to Dan Chaney. He wrote Family Messages in about 48 hours.</p>
<p>Amazing stuff. I&#8217;m not plugging it in the mainline blog, since I&#8217;m waiting to see if it&#8217;s really possible. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems apropos:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060325/pl_nm/hurricanes_voters_dc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems apropos:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060325/pl_nm/hurricanes_voters_dc" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060325/pl_nm/hurricanes_voters_dc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jud

The polls close at the end of Monday. The debate is on April 13th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jud</p>
<p>The polls close at the end of Monday. The debate is on April 13th.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! To quote Becky Houtman.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
I voted for Nick this morning. I voted like a Chicago cemetary.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks for your help in deciding the future of New Orleans elections and criminal justice.

Two of the folks that are ahead are relative unknowns, and will probably get more votes in the web poll than in the actual election. Seriously.

Nick really does have the support here. He should really be the one in that debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! To quote Becky Houtman.</p>
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I voted for Nick this morning. I voted like a Chicago cemetary.
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<p>Thanks for your help in deciding the future of New Orleans elections and criminal justice.</p>
<p>Two of the folks that are ahead are relative unknowns, and will probably get more votes in the web poll than in the actual election. Seriously.</p>
<p>Nick really does have the support here. He should really be the one in that debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel so... Chicagoan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel so&#8230; Chicagoan.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jud

When the polls close, your guess is as good as mine. I&#039;ll ask Nick and Jimmy Delery this afternoon. I&#039;m going to the opening of Nick&#039;s campaign headquarters.

Here&#039;s the front end of the poll...

http://www.wdsu.com/politics/index.html

The election is on April 22nd. It&#039;s a crazy election with a large number of candidates in each contest. (Katrina has embolded folks to make a political bid, since the demographics have changed.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jud</p>
<p>When the polls close, your guess is as good as mine. I&#8217;ll ask Nick and Jimmy Delery this afternoon. I&#8217;m going to the opening of Nick&#8217;s campaign headquarters.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the front end of the poll&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wdsu.com/politics/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wdsu.com/politics/index.html</a></p>
<p>The election is on April 22nd. It&#8217;s a crazy election with a large number of candidates in each contest. (Katrina has embolded folks to make a political bid, since the demographics have changed.)</p>
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		<title>By: jud</title>
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		<dc:creator>jud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, when do the polls close on this? When&#039;s the debate? When&#039;s the election?

thanks, hard to stop once I started...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, when do the polls close on this? When&#8217;s the debate? When&#8217;s the election?</p>
<p>thanks, hard to stop once I started&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul

I don&#039;t think anyone has written a script. The votes dropped off at nighttime.

I do think that people are voting again and again. I&#039;m sure they are going to get up and running again today.

I would never write a script or work to effect the poll programatically.

I am sure that people would argue that it was some sort of cheat to write a script, but the process was otherwise fair, which is not true, of course. They would simply disqualify the candidate who used a script, saying that it was a fluke.

Of course, the other candidates might have a script, but they could be clever about how they use it. If this was how elections were deterined everywhere, people would have clever spoofs to make their million votes look legitimate.

No script. But, I&#039;d like to get this blog entry linked in like crazy today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone has written a script. The votes dropped off at nighttime.</p>
<p>I do think that people are voting again and again. I&#8217;m sure they are going to get up and running again today.</p>
<p>I would never write a script or work to effect the poll programatically.</p>
<p>I am sure that people would argue that it was some sort of cheat to write a script, but the process was otherwise fair, which is not true, of course. They would simply disqualify the candidate who used a script, saying that it was a fluke.</p>
<p>Of course, the other candidates might have a script, but they could be clever about how they use it. If this was how elections were deterined everywhere, people would have clever spoofs to make their million votes look legitimate.</p>
<p>No script. But, I&#8217;d like to get this blog entry linked in like crazy today.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Christmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Christmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watching the results for a few moments, it does appear obvious that one candidate is running a script (or has paid someone to sit and click).

Have you written a script yet?  Have you notified other news media about this?  It seems like a horrible (if well-intentioned) abuse of the power of media to influence an election.

Knowing that its happening, and that the system is broken, I think you should do whatever is in your power to take advantage of the system *AND* highlight its injustice.  What would WDSU say if one candidate has a million votes, while the next candidate has a thousand?  If Nick is chosen, I would ask him to make a point in the debate about the inherent unfairness of the selection process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watching the results for a few moments, it does appear obvious that one candidate is running a script (or has paid someone to sit and click).</p>
<p>Have you written a script yet?  Have you notified other news media about this?  It seems like a horrible (if well-intentioned) abuse of the power of media to influence an election.</p>
<p>Knowing that its happening, and that the system is broken, I think you should do whatever is in your power to take advantage of the system *AND* highlight its injustice.  What would WDSU say if one candidate has a million votes, while the next candidate has a thousand?  If Nick is chosen, I would ask him to make a point in the debate about the inherent unfairness of the selection process.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ric

I forgot to say...

Thanks for voting for Nick Varrecchio!

Vote early. Click reload often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ric</p>
<p>I forgot to say&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for voting for Nick Varrecchio!</p>
<p>Vote early. Click reload often.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ric

I know. It&#039;s something else. There is a disclaimer on the survey form that says...

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Please keep in mind that our polls are for entertainment and are not conducted in a scientific fashion.&lt;p&gt;

We make no guarantees about the accuracy of the results other than that they reflect the choices of the users who participated.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Everyone on the campaign is pretty much freaking out though. The television time, during the news, is priceless. Being voted into the debate is so important for crediblity.

For a contest like the Clerk of Court, budgets don&#039;t permit much television, so this television exposure can be decisive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ric</p>
<p>I know. It&#8217;s something else. There is a disclaimer on the survey form that says&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>
Please keep in mind that our polls are for entertainment and are not conducted in a scientific fashion.
<p>We make no guarantees about the accuracy of the results other than that they reflect the choices of the users who participated.
</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Everyone on the campaign is pretty much freaking out though. The television time, during the news, is priceless. Being voted into the debate is so important for crediblity.</p>
<p>For a contest like the Clerk of Court, budgets don&#8217;t permit much television, so this television exposure can be decisive.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting experiment, Alan. Just how much can a blog influence this outcome? But ... does anyone else find it a little bizarre that someone sitting quietly at home on a sunny Saturday afternoon in Adelaide, Australia can be voting for a debate candidate in New Orleans, Louisiana?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting experiment, Alan. Just how much can a blog influence this outcome? But &#8230; does anyone else find it a little bizarre that someone sitting quietly at home on a sunny Saturday afternoon in Adelaide, Australia can be voting for a debate candidate in New Orleans, Louisiana?</p>
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